I don’t generally cite Dr. Michael Greger because he’s a vaccine believer, lightly ridicules people for opposing them, and he has a few other viewpoints I don’t care for. But he’s brilliant anyway, even if not necessarily an animal advocate. He seems strictly health oriented to me, except for the conventional belief in vaccines which he rarely if ever will discuss openly, apparently. Well, in relation to my previous article on soy “estrogen,” linked below is something from him I found interesting and informative, including the comments from his readers…
The word “livestock” is chock full of meaning, none of it good.
Stock is material goods kept on hand for use and/or available for sale, i.e. things. Not lives, things. Live stock are, of course, sentient lives held captive for use and/or available for sale. In other words, slaves, to be used for whatever purpose you like, including to be knifed to death and turned into unhealthy food. Or to be kept in hellishly abysmal breeding mills as with dogs for the puppy market. The shameful list goes on, all the stuff of the worst nightmares. But somehow deemed okay by the complacent masses.
“Only people can be said to be murdered or enslaved, not animals.”
People like to differentiate between people and animals, believing it’s okay to keep animals as slaves and sell them, slaughter them, and so forth…but not humans.
Well, except for our violent offenders and murderers who obviously do think it’s (more than) okay to kidnap and slaughter people. They almost always train themselves on animals before finally getting at the real targets of their rage. Now, what does that say for those who abuse and slaughter animals legally, for normal people’s wants?
Why do otherwise decent people suddenly become monstrously cruel when it comes to what they like to eat?
With me, it was purely and simply a habit, a holdover from generations upon generations past. And of course denial plays a big part in the sham; people love to pretend animals enjoy their lots in life and that being ineffectively stunned (or the more popular these days, fully conscious) and knifed to death is a pleasant way to die. And like everyone else, I used to believe: It’s all absolutely necessary! Otherwise, how will we survive? Without animal meat/eggs/milk, we cannot be healthy! (Which of course is a big load of nonsense.)
“It doesn’t get any better than us!”
A popular belief goes something like: Well, using and slaughtering animals got us to this stage of development so it must be good to use and slaughter animals. Yet at this stage of development, we’re anything but a peaceful, nonviolent, truly intelligent and consistently admirable species.
We hear accounts almost daily of some new horrific case where a child has been kidnapped, raped, murdered, and all variety of crimes against each other, from global crimes like what’s going on with North Korea and the terrorism problem, to one-on-one robberies, gangs of thugs menacing or harming people, etc., ad nauseam. There’s plenty else that doesn’t inspire pride either—anything but. The slaughterhouse, et al, are at the big old, deep root of all of that.
Anyone beaming with pride over humanity’s current state, thinking there’s no better way for humanity to conduct itself, has to be quite deranged. Derangement often seems to be the overwhelming state of mind among people. Those who are well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society are indeed profoundly sick people.
“Have a steak and fit in, weirdo.”
But as long as it’s the majority and “everyone’s doing it,” it’s okay, people believe. Being different is one of the things people fear the most. People are creatures of conformity, fitting in with the crowd, not being weird in any unhip way. Go with the flow, don’t make waves. Live your life the normal way, and aggressively push that normalcy on others. Well, aggressively normal people are repulsive to me. Really, I cannot stand it. Aggressively normal people love the concept of livestock, since normal people well-adjusted to a sick society have always used livestock.
Normal people seem totally oblivious to the harm the livestock mindset visits upon all of us. Believing in livestock allows every form of human-on-human cruelty out there. Since, when we lie to each other to excuse sadistic abuse of the innocent, because of their “inferior” status, deep down we know it’s all lies and that we’re thereby a species of liars. That leads to a simmering dislike of each other, then overblown denial of that dislike and the happy “I love all people!” proclamations. A perfect recipe for the collective insanity we all can admit to when being brutally honest. However…
Millions of lightbulb moments
Thankfully, these days more and more people are realizing the importance of our treatment of animals, realizing they are not stock, they’re highly sensitive beings with as much right to their own lives as we have to ours. So I sincerely hope hordes and hordes of people will continue recruiting everyone they can to the cause and the health benefits of being vegan and opposing all use of animals as livestock.
Then, someday that concept, that vile word and all the horrors that stem from it, will become obsolete, to be remembered by the vast majority only in shame and disbelief.
As vegans who also feed our dogs well-balanced vegan diets, we often are scathingly condemned for going against dogs’ wild nature and their desire to eat meat either cooked or raw. On the web I’ve been called an animal abuser for feeding vegan, with nasty blowhards saying my dogs should be taken away, etc. This implies that my claims of how healthy my dogs are are the lies of a delusional zealot.
Besides, no one else wanted my dogs when they were out running the streets, or when I tried to find homes for them, so taking them away from me after all these years (Mattie since 2005) would mean…what? Anyone who tried to take my beloved dogs away from me would have to be a complete fool (and may end up in the hospital). My dogs are very well cared for and happy.
I do have one dog who died last year at age 9 of lung cancer, but understand that has nothing to do with diet, but with genetics and exposure to toxins at some point in her life. My current two, Mattie and Tyler, are obviously doing very well on all vegan foods, both being full of energy, strong, playful, tireless actually, and Mattie is close to 17 years old now. She’s been vegan since 2011, and Tyler has been since I adopted him in May 2016.
Mattie does have lipomas which began growing in 2010 when I had her on meat kibble, the grain-free stuff that’s supposed to be the best. I’m not saying that caused her lipomas, but it certainly didn’t help. Since about 2012 after she’d been on vegan kibble for a couple of years, the lipomas stopped growing and have remained the same (albeit one is quite large) for going on 5 years now. Many vets do say that dietary toxins cause lipomas in dogs, so eliminating all the toxins in slaughterhouse products does seem to have helped.
The reason I don’t have Mattie’s lipomas removed is because I went through that three times with my dog Heidi back in 2004–2006, spent $1800, and each time after her traumatic experience and painful recovery, the tumor began growing back promptly and each time it got worse. The last time it recurred it got huge quickly and actually turned cancerous. I had to have her euthanized at age 14 when it was causing her discomfort in breathing, keeping her awake at night (it was behind her ribcage on her back, left side). So, cutting out lipomas is often not the answer. The answer is to get the weird toxins out of their diets. Heidi was on the grain-free premium meat foods, was rarely if ever fed vegan.
As for these very selective nature worshippers…
People cry out about the cruelty of feeding dogs vegan and how unnatural that is, while ignoring the huge pink elephant in the room: the glaring unnaturalness of dogs’ whole existence with us in human civilization. This little guy should still be with his dog family…
We are to feed them like wolves when they live nothing at all like wolves. Yet, even wolves eat plant foods and berries to satisfy certain nutritional needs. But one thing wolves do not do is split up their families when their puppies are a couple of months old, and send them off to live among strangers in some human abode, too often kept in sad and deplorable conditions, treated like trash.
Wolf families often remain together for years before some will go off to start other packs as adults, to avoid genetic problems caused by incest. Wolves plan cleverly and hunt together and travel great distances, and so forth. They don’t wear clothes or have vaccines shot into them. They don’t have bizarrely long matting coats or any of the other hindrances people have bred into them for fun and profits. What people do to dogs and their families is truly deplorable. Wholly unnatural!
If one is going to bring a litter of puppies into this world, one needs to be fully willing and capable of keeping all of the puppies for life (15-20 years) and caring for them properly. Actually, no one should be bringing puppies into this world, not deliberately and certainly not for sale. The way things are, we will always have dogs throughout the world needing homes, with not one dog breeder in existence. Dog breeders are a tremendous burden.
It would be a great thing if dogs were extremely hard to come by and truly valued and respected as individuals, not thought of as mere things you can buy and sell. That cruel mistake has led to our nightmarish puppy mills of today and our shelters being nothing more than death row prisons full of frightened dogs desperate to get out.
Anyone want to call that “natural”?
People breed dogs as commodities in cages and put them through all sorts of terrifying and grotesquely unnatural treatments to feed the continual greed of the “pet” industry. And people call that, and feeding them slaughterhouse byproducts “natural.” People become enraged that anyone would feed them all plant foods while caring carefully for them and keeping them from reproducing. Just WTF is wrong with people?
People seem to have no problem with dog breeders and the awful abuses they subject those canine families to, not to mention their adding continually to the overpopulation of dogs and their being killed by the millions yearly, everything from “shelter” executions to street injuries, to outright abuse and torture done to them by poor crazy fools due to dogs (and cats and others too) having no one to watch out for them.
Yet if you really want to see people get loudly and self-righteously outraged, just tell them your dog is vegan. While those same people’s eyes will glaze over at the actual unspeakable abuses going on out their due to the whole “pet” industry. They’ll accuse you of being “negative” and even causing people to abuse animals by speaking about it. I have seen this firsthand. Something is truly rotten, not only in Denmark (of animal “brothel” fame), but in all nations where dogs and animals are allowed to be treated as products for sale.
Treating animals as commodities or things has got to end before people will ever be justified in claiming any sort of moral “superiority.” As it all stands now, we’re nothing but monsters, despite the good among us which cannot ever compensate for the horrors incalculable numbers of animals live and die through under our “care” every minute of every day.
So no, I will not support the slaughter industry by buying meat or animal products for my animals. Now, put a sock in it, those of you who rail against feeding dogs vegan. You seriously need to direct your outrage elsewhere.