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An Honest Conversation with an Ex-Vegan (for a change)

Hey Wendy, it’s been a while; want to go to lunch with me today?

Okay Delia, let’s go to Vinnie’s for pizza.

Wait, I thought you were vegan, they don’t have anything vegan at Vinnie’s.

Oh I quit that last month, I just didn’t have what it takes to stick with it, too much pressure from everyone to “get back to normal.” I was always the odd one out, not eating this, rejecting that, being rude to cooks; always felt weird and like everyone was thinking things about me. I went to a crystal party in April and they had all this fancy snack food set out and all I could eat was some chips and salsa and some drinks. Everyone else was free to eat whatever. I felt so…odd.

But I thought you were vegan not only for your health but because you love animals. Was that not true?

Yes I love animals, but some are just brought into the world as food or whatever people want to use them for; it’s just the way things are. My not eating or using them won’t stop it. Most everyone else is still doing it.

What, are you going to start wearing fur too? Are all those ethics just out the window?

NO, of course I won’t wear fur, or eat veal; I do at least draw a line somewhere, whenever it doesn’t interrupt my comfort anyways. It’s just that as a vegan, the treatment I got from normal people made me always feel like this little boy back in second grade who had all the kids gang up on him and blamed him for something he didn’t do…I’ll never forget his face. I know it sounds weak, but that’s how people made me feel for being vegan.

But you always told me that by your not eating animals you were part of the solution, not the problem, that it was for your soul, for your karma that you were doing it, just as much as for the animals. You said that the more vegans there were, the closer they were to being a majority and making the world a far better place. And, I’ve actually gotten to where I’m mostly vegan now because of things I learned from you, and now you’ve done a 180 and you’re actually back to doing what you said was so horrible?

I know. I don’t know if I was lying more back then, to everyone else, or if I’m lying more now, to myself; but whatever the case, it’s just easier for me to go along and get along, to no longer be the vegan freak that everyone thinks they either have to walk on eggshells around or who they feel free to openly ridicule. I can’t hang out only at vegan potlucks for the rest of my life. I just didn’t have the backbone to rise above all that social pressure and awkwardness, so I gave up on my morals to fit back in with the majority. It’s a huge relief in a way, but also a huge disappointment in myself. And, there’s a big load of guilt about the animals, which I try to cover up by saying I had terrible health problems as a vegan so that I was forced to go back to meat, eggs and dairy, to save my life.

But you were so healthy for all those years, what was it, seven? I never noticed you having any sort of health problems, except for that one time when you were out with the flu. And I’m feeling so much better now after a couple of months of being nearly vegan. So what’s up with the health problems?

Eight years. I didn’t really have any problems, I felt great too; but I listened to all the people telling vegans how they were looking terrible, missing out on all these nutrients, going to lose their teeth, go blind, lose their hair, have their brains dissolve, go insane, get cancer, diabetes, all that. It all stressed me out enough that I started imagining that every little thing was from lack of animal foods. Like once I had a fingernail break off and I panicked, even though I used to have nails break off before I ever quit eating animals. And I’d forget the name of someone I’d just met and thought, uh oh, there goes my brain. Or when I had bad PMS…those sort of things. I kind of half knew I was full of crap, same as now, but I just can’t face being the odd one out again. Not yet anyways. Life’s just easier now. As long as I don’t let my conscience butt in and fill me with shame.

Well I’m fine with being the odd one out, knowing what I know now; am only struggling with giving up the little bit of cheese I might still eat. Everything else I eat is vegan and I’m loving it. If I could just find a vegan cheese that I like, and it wasn’t too expensive. They’re either gross or if good they cost an arm and a leg! It’s just so strange that I used to be questioning you about all this and now here we are just about totally reversed!

Well now you’ve gone and made me feel guilty, but I needed that. In the back of my mind I’m always troubled by what I’m doing now. My way of blocking that out is to bask in the company of other ex-vegans on the internet and hear their tales of malnutrition horror. Which, if their truth is anything like mine, means they’re a bunch of liars. But then I wonder, how could they ALL be lying. Then I realize that I’m totally capable of the same if I wanted to go all out like they do. It’s all just so… unseemly. I do think about coming back to vegan, but then the huge disappointment and ridicule and dire warnings that’ll be dumped on me are just too much to bear. Wish I was a stronger person. I miss my old self.

She’s still in there, Wendy, you just have to let her back in the driver’s seat. You can’t let other people drown out your conscience. Anyhow, why don’t we go to the Green Thumb for lunch later; one lunch without animal products won’t do you in, will it?

Haha, I guess I’ll survive until dinner after that poisonous, anti-nutrient filled, totally sucky, sugar loaded lunch suited only for…no one. It’ll be rough, but nowhere near as rough as the treatment I’ll get if friends and family find out about it.

Hah, I won’t tell anyone if you don’t. I’d say some falafel, hummus and tabouleh wraps with a nice green salad and a fruit smoothie might not kill you. That sound good?

Yes, actually it does, Delia. Meet you at twelve in the lobby!

Credit: Vanessa Prosser on Tumblr (defunct account)

Well, was that fictional little discussion heavy-handed and trite enough for you? If so, glad it met your expectations, hah. I just wanted to deal in my corny way with what I truly think is the Number One reason behind all this “ex-vegan” nonsense going on these days. Aside from the Wendys of the world, the more flaky trendies who hop on this bandwagon on a whim, the more whiny loudmouthed quitters there will be joining these vegan-bashing forums full of misinformation.

Please don’t let yourself be influenced by such people going through a really lowdown phase in their lives. Always listen to your better self.

End of sermon. 😌

[Uncredited images courtesy of pixabay.com]

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Taking the Terror out of the Whole Vegan Thing

UPDATED 8/15/18, added a few minor details.

A lot of people like to complain about how complicated, expensive and just plain impossible “The Vegan Diet” is, as their excuse for never trying, or for quitting and fitting back in with the corpse-eating animal lovers who fund all sorts of unspeakable animal abuse. Well, I decided to prove them to be mistaken in very basic terms, with an actual boilerplate, one-size-fits-most “Vegan Diet.”

Think as if we only had 12 basic foods to consume, including just one fortified processed food item, and a maximum of one supplement in pill form*, with the rest being whole plant foods with only a couple being milled or otherwise minimally processed. So for now, forget about the vast array of delicious foods and treats available to vegans just about everywhere, and think “simplest possible.”

So, just how simple can one’s vegan diet be to have full needed nutrition in a day?

If I had to choose, strictly for nutrition, one group of foods for the rest of my life, here they are in alphabetical order (see underneath Cronometer charts for notes). Keep in mind that this is not for taste or “excitement,” it’s just to show the ample nutrition in basic everyday plant foods:

1. Asparagus
2. Avocados
3. Broccoli
4. Carrots
5. Chickpeas
6. Figs**
7. Flaxseed Meal
8. Oranges
9. Peanut Butter (natural unsalted)
10. Sesame Seeds
11. Soy Milk – unsweetened, fortified w/calcium, vit. D, B12, etc. (counts as the one fortified item)
12. Whole Wheat Hot Cereal

*The one pill supplement is zinc at 1/2 of a 10 mg tablet or 5 mg.

**Figs are seasonal but dried figs are available year-round, or they can be picked from trees during their season, July–September in CA, or bought fresh, and frozen for out-of-season use such as in smoothies. Fig trees are actual treasures.

The “how” and details of it all from Cronometer.com (click to enlarge, chart is in two parts):

Continued…

NOTES…

“Special concerns” for vegans (but not only vegans):

The VITAMIN B12 is all from the fortified soy milk.

The CALCIUM is primarily from the fortified soy milk, then from the broccoli, figs, and oranges.

The ZINC is mainly from the 1/2 tablet (or 5 mg) supplement, then the broccoli and chickpeas.

The COPPER is a bit high at 2.8 mg, as the recommended is 2.0 mg, but the high zinc intake levels that out.

The VITAMIN D is all from the soy milk; any additional needed can be gotten from sunshine.

The great PROTEIN profile is mainly from the soy milk, broccoli, chickpeas, peanut butter, asparagus, wheat cereal, avocado, and carrots.

The VITAMIN K is primarily from the broccoli, then the asparagus and avocado. 801% is good because it’s said vit. K2 (as opposed to K1) need is total K multiplied by 15%, so that would equal 120% of needed K2.

The SELENIUM is primarily from the wheat cereal, then the asparagus, broccoli, and chickpeas.

The IRON is primarily from the broccoli, chickpeas and soy milk, then from the asparagus, wheat cereal, avocado, figs, and flaxseed meal.

The great VITAMIN C intake enhances the absorption of non-heme iron from plants.

The OMEGA-3 is primarily from the flaxseed meal, then the broccoli and avocado.

The low OMEGA-6 number is said to be a good thing, that we need far more omega-3 than -6.

The VITAMIN A is where it should be at 1202% because the vit. A need from plants is said to be 12 times more than from animal products.

IODINE isn’t tracked on Cronometer, but the 1/2 tsp. of iodized salt in my list takes care of iodine need for the day, although it does make the sodium a bit high…but still lower than most people get in a day.

For the SOY phobic, the soy milk can be replaced by any similarly fortified plant milk.

Of course, anyone with ALLERGIES or other problems with particular foods should replace them with harmless foods with similar nutrition.

No, you could not live “in the wild” like that…

…not without omitting the few processed items and being in a place where those whole foods are growing. But even without the processed items, one could get by for some time with a few other “wild” foods added. But think, could 7 billion+ people live “in the wild” at all without all sorts of technology and products? No, they could not. Everyone, even “wild man” survivalists, depends on manmade products every day. Vegans are not weird or deficient in that way, as is popularly claimed.

So, any new or struggling vegans out there needing a simple diet plan, the above would be a great basic outline for one. On top of everything else, it’s fairly inexpensive. So there really are no excuses for not being vegan. Please pass this along to any anti-vegan skeptics in your life.

Come on now, let’s get this thing done!

Do realize that as long as there’s even one slaughterhouse (or any other such place of bloody horrors) lurking behind our “civilizations,” there will be continuing violence and bloodshed among humanity.

Disclaimer

This article provides information that should not take the place of professional advice. I am not a nutrition or health professional but am sharing what I’ve learned through experience and from what I trust are good sources in regard to my own nutrition. If you have concerns, I encourage you to talk to a (vegan friendly) registered dietitian or other trusted professional about your dietary needs.

Images, aside from charts, are free from Pixabay.com.

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Why the fuck am I vegan? – The downside they don’t tell you about.

All of this lady’s posts are great (regardless of any “profanity”). There aren’t many articles, so it should be easy for anyone to read and learn from them all…

VeganSupernova

People don’t tell you about the downside. They talk about the incredible health benefits and the reduction of risk for heart disease and cancers. They talk about how it supports the planet because animal agriculture is the leading cause of deforestation, species extinction, habitat loss, ocean dead zones and greenhouse gas emissions. They tell you about how you’re no longer contributing to the horrific torture, mutilation and misery in the everyday lives of innocent animals and the horror they endure in the slaughterhouse.

Granted. There’s no denying that.

So then being vegan must be awesome… right?!

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