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“Vegan toddler clinging to life, so malnourished by her parents’ vegan diet!”

UPDATED May 25, 2019, added some videos near bottom.

On this Mother’s Day I thought it appropriate to deal with the latest vegan-baby-starvation-witch-hunt-oh-boy-let’s-all-pile-on-and-vent-our-vegan-hating-rage-and-demand-their-babies-are-all-confiscated-by-the-authorities-blah-blah-blah, out of Australia this time. Never mind the fact that tons of ignorant, unhinged parents of every dietary stripe are guilty of malnourishing their children every day, while the only ones that become a fake news sensation and hate fest are the so-called vegans…a tiny minority of vegans at that.

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Gee whiz, I wonder why that would be. Could it be…well, that the dietary advisors and the meat- and pharmaceutical industry-beholden media are hell bent on destroying the vegan movement in any insidious, libelous, slanderous, dishonest, sleazy way possible? Oh gosh no! Our trusted, concerned, friendly faces of the media would do no such thing!

People so love those stories, a perfect chance to really let those despised vegans have it.

Below is a small sampling of the thousands of comments out there in the last several days, mostly self-righteously, extremely hostile, in response to this latest media campaign against veganism. My faves are the fifth and sixth ones down:

”I think it should be illegal to force eating habits on children under the age of 12. Also to brainwash them into said eating habits. They shohld be able to choose when they’re in tbeir mid teens and not before. This poor little mite shows that being vegan from birth is dangerous and detrimental to life.” (But forcing dead animals into their mouths is A-ok! 😣)

“It has nothing to do with being Vegan, and everything to do with being bad irresponsible parents.”

“I think this has more to do with being abusive than being vegan. That child was not fed enough of anything. My son was between 4 and 5 kilo when he was born. Unreal to think that poor 19 month old was under 5 kilo!!”

“A Vegan diet isn’t appropriate for an infant period”

“Mindless vegans again. It should be illegal to feed your child any fad diet. You should be obliged to feed them all food groups. After 18 they choose…stop imposing your mental illness onto a child. Try telling a vegan almond milk isn’t suitable for children they have a complete meltdown. Whole mentality of it is sick.” (But other species’ milk is suitable for children? So mentally healthy. 😣)

“And this is why vegans should not be alowed force their diets on kids. Babies need meat and other foods..”

“They should never ever be allowed to have any more children. They have proved themselves unfit, nothing to do with vegan beliefs, just evil. Were the other children malnourish too, vile cruel couple”

“Most sensible comment ever.”

“Vegans are wallys”

Get the drift? And that’s a UK publication where veganism is quite popular. A few sensible people, but the rest are nothing but ignorant, raging, aggressive conformists’ showing evidence of their bacon & cheese clogged carotid arteries.

Long story short:

You don’t feed a vegan baby nothing but starch, protein and a bit of banana and have a fear of soy because of “hormones,” as did the latest Australian parents, and not expect the child to have problems. A child needs vegetables including greens, carrots, etc.; fruits including citrus; beans, nuts or nut butters, whole grains, flaxseed or chia seed MEAL, a B12 supplement, daily sunshine or a vegan D3 supplement, and yes, a serving or two of soy products like organic tofu, and possibly a multivitamin & mineral supplement if you have a fussy eater. It’s not rocket science, just basic Human Nutrition, for Babies – 101.

When people get caught up in gurus like the “admirably slim” guy on the right here who spout, “all this or all that, high or low carb, high or low/no fat, NO SOY!, all raw, all fruit, no grains!, etc.,” then people are being really foolish, in my opinion. (Of course anyone sensitive to ANY substance such as peanuts, gluten or soy should not have them in their diet.)

The reality, not the media witch hunt, regarding vegan kids:

Following are some videos and articles including a great collection of recipes, for anyone who wants to see some REAL vegan kids being raised by sane, common-sense vegan parents, and the how-tos, but it’s all fairly simple…the hard part, as with any family, is getting fussy babies and kids to eat healthy.

Three videos of healthy vegan babies:

Tons of great RECIPES on Pintrest, Vegan Baby! https://www.pinterest.com/mishmashfire/vegan-baby/

Video with nurse practitioner on feeding vegan babies and kids: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwiVlka6imA

Article/podcast on the No Meat Athlete’s Kids: https://www.nomeatathlete.com/radio-196/

Article on nutrition for babies through teens from PCRM: https://www.pcrm.org/good-nutrition/nutrition-for-kids

Happy Mother’s Day to all the responsible vegan moms out there! Don’t let the hateful goons out there get you down and make you feel like pariahs…you’re the exact opposite of that.
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Prince & Mayte and the Sad Loss of Their Vegan Babies

[Above video added 4/26/18…another great one.]

As virtually everyone knows by now, Prince passed away on April 21, 2016. I liked him, enjoyed certain of his tunes a lot, and especially liked his performances. My elderly mom even liked him, loved watching him on stage on tv. He was from Minneapolis, same as her, so perhaps a bit of hometown prejudice there? 😇

Rest in Peace, Prince Rogers Nelson

On to another sad matter…

Prince’s ex-wife, Mayte Garcia, had two pregnancies with Prince in the 1990s; one was lost to miscarriage and one suffered from Pfeiffer syndrome, an inherited genetic disorder where the skull and other bones fail to grow normally and cause malformations. That baby survived only for a short time, even though Pfeiffer syndrome isn’t considered fatal.

Apparently Mayte suspected that the lack of animal products in their diet contributed to her babies’ problems and deaths. And that is very likely totally false. Even now, her only child, a daughter she is raising with much love and care, was adopted, not given birth to by her. Not everyone has an easy time reproducing. And adoption is a really good thing. I believe the couple’s problem was also with Prince and I suspect that it was genetic or in some way nothing he could help…nothing to be blamed on anyone or any diet.

Prince was another “celebrity vegan” we come to find out actually wasn’t vegan for that long, only for a period somewhere from the mid-1990s to perhaps 2005 or so (but who really knows?), even though he did support veganism and had compassion for animals.

He does seem to have been a bit preoccupied with thinness (for Mayte too) and may have been in the habit of working very hard to stay lean and not eating much, which will cause anyone problems, not just vegans.

So any health problems he developed, like damaged hips, possibly leading to his pain pill addiction and early death, most likely stem from an eating disorder, among other things like performing in severe shoes…not from his past years of eating no animal products.

Plenty of vegans are healthy, strong, have healthy pregnancies and radiant children, and live good long lives. I believe it’s a matter of eating enough, healthy lifestyle practices, and having no genetic or other predisposing problems.

There’s a rumor floating around that Prince had HIV since the 1980s, but in my view such rumors aren’t worth a damn.

Prince was epileptic as a child, which I only recently learned. He may have also had some problem involving reproduction and his sperm, since with the high level of wild sexual activity throughout his life, he only got one woman pregnant that anyone really knows of, and that’s Mayte. (He’s said to have one other “love child” who’s come out recently, after Prince’s death, but the truth of that is unknown at this time.)

So at most, Prince fathered three children, with at most two women but likely only one. That’s out of dozens or more women who surely would have been very eager to be mothers of his children. And still, only two babies that were definitely his. Said two having sadly perished, one in the womb and one a short time after birth.

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Prince and Mayte in the 1990s

Now, it seems dishonest for Mayte to hint that the vegan diet they were into at the time was to blame; or perhaps she was misinformed. If her lack of nutrition was part of the problem, it was more likely from not eating enough of any foods, not a lack of animal foods.

I’ve read recent excerpts where Mayte encourages fans to be “flexitarians” with her, so frightened she still is of eliminating animal products from her diet. And she does love and care for animals…she is quite active in dog & cat rescue: http://maytesrescue.com. Which shows how that unwarranted fear of lack of animal foods can lead even a serious animal lover back to consuming them.

Prince was known to passionately desire children of his own, dreamed of babies all around him, so he was certainly not someone who would ever have chosen not to have kids. Beautiful women flocked to him, he could have had babies with any one of them, or any number. But he did not. Not well before he ever went vegan, and not well after he’d gone back to dairy, eggs, and whatever else he ate after he quit being vegan.

Seems he’d have most likely become a dad in the 1980s when he was at his peak of success, from about age 21 to 30, yet he never did. And no one would say his diet was responsible back then, unless they want to say an omnivorous diet was the problem. No, it was most likely that he, for some unknown reason, had a serious problem that prevented his becoming a father.

As you’ll see by reading here about Lucas and Kenya and their two awesome boys: http://ourveganpregnancy.blogspot.in/2015/10/extra-extra-read-all-about-it-our-vegan.html, vegans who eat well and take care of themselves have no problems with pregnancy, birth, and raising healthy kids. There are many more than Lucas and Kenya, but I’ll not bog this down with my chosen links. You can search “vegan pregnancies and child rearing” on your own, but beware of dishonest anti-vegan sites spreading misinformation when searching. Internet is full of such “land mines.”

There are miscarriages every day all over the world, and babies born with problems who are unable to survive. Their parents are not vegans. Percentage-wise, I’d be willing to bet that vegans’ chance of pregnancy problems is the same or perhaps lower than others, because vegans typically get more folate in their diets from healthy foods like leafy greens, along with other important nutrients found only in fruits and vegetables. And generally, vegans are more health conscious and go all out to have healthy pregnancies and kids, when not opposed to reproducing that is, obviously.

I just wanted to sort of clear this up here, even if just for myself, because I’ve always wondered if Prince or Mayte ever blamed their lack of surviving babies on veganism. And today I found a quote from Mayte saying just that. How distressing. She was pretty negative and unfair there.

Any thoughts, anyone? (But of course, any hate-filled vegan bashing will not be approved.)

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Veggie diet will make a girly-man of you…no offspring for you!

UPDATED 12/31/2017 to change reference article from one by Steve Williams at Care2 to one by the Vegan RD.

Yet another crude tool added to the dubious arsenal to bash vegan lifestyles

angry-man-274175_640You’ve probably seen the headlines, “Concern as sperm count fails,” “Nutritional Disasters,” “Bad news for vegetarian men, lower sperm count than meat-eaters,” yadda yadda, all in a gloating, fevered, meat-lovers’ response to a study out of Loma Linda University which is outlined in linked article below…

The Vegan RD published something well-written, credible, intelligent, and objective, dispelling the senselessness and mean-spirited gloating seen elsewhere regarding this study:

http://www.theveganrd.com/2014/10/vegan-diets-sperm-concentrations-and-fertility-why-there-is-no-need-to-worry/

Please also note these important points when reading the above article:

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Vegan Dad, Vegan Baby, Vegan Dog

1) 474 men were studied; 443 meat eaters, 26 vegetarians (dairy & eggs), and only 5 vegans…with roughly 100 million vegan men in the world. (Most vegan men become fathers and have very healthy children, unless ethically opposed to bringing more lives into all this.) To be even remotely meaningful, the study would have been much larger and more exacting.

2) Vegan men have the same testosterone levels as other men (actually starting out much higher but balancing out to normal; see here in this far more scientific study: http://www.researchgate.net/publication/12434790_Hormones_and_diet_low_insulin-like_growth_factor-I_but_normal_bioavailable_androgens_in_vegan_men). As well, vegan men usually have better vascular health from lower fat, higher fiber, etc., which means only good things sexually. And those higher-to-equal testosterone levels equate to same quality/quantity of sperm.

Feedlot-Cattle3) The soy scare: People on animal-based diets ingest untold amounts of GMO soy daily from animal products, as the majority of soy grown goes to feed “live stock.” So when the study suggests soy may be at fault for vegetarian men’s lower sperm count, it’s wrong on several levels; much is being overlooked and misrepresented…

4) And of course, vegetarians eat loads of dairy and eggs…vastly different from vegans. And yes I did see that those two groups had similar…low but normal…sperm stats. Yet again, there were only FIVE vegan men in the study. That’s significant.

5) Nowhere have I seen stated what these people actually ate, especially those five vegans, and if the vegetarian men even ate soy foods, or just loads of dairy which contains animal estrogens.

6) Now, this all assumes that reproductive ability is the be-all and end-all of our worth and health as human beings, and that the programmed urge to procreate is somehow a good thing. That’s subject to doubt and debate. But the good health of vegans has been called into question by this non-study of FIVE of them, so must be examined.

7) I presume that several of the meat eaters in the study had very low sperm counts, since the numbers were averaged out, some low, some high. (Again leaving those FIVE vegan men’s results utterly meaningless.) Consider that about 15% of couples are affected by infertility and among those about a third are due to the man’s infertility, while most everyone eats animal products.

All in all, something is indeed quite fishy about the Loma Linda study…

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Seventh Day Adventists (as a whole) aren’t necessarily admirably ethical towards animals, nor regarding anything else, including science. Remember vivisector Leonard Bailey and the baboon heart experiment failure in the mid-1980’s, where Baby Fae died, while another proven method was available to help her survive her heart defect? http://www.nytimes.com/1984/11/16/us/baby-fae-who-received-a-heart-from-baboon-dies-after-20-days.html

Loma Linda University is a Seventh Day Adventist school…SDA’s are a somewhat vegetarian, creationist Christian church. So it’s quite ironic that atheistic Darwin fans have latched onto this flimsy “study” to crow about meat making them manly. Such grasping at straws. Blatant desperation.

There’s so much more to all this

MIN_Rungis_viandes_de_boucherie_veauAnimal ag interests, including the public’s addiction to slaughterhouse fare, are bound to keep this shoddy sperm-count study “discussion” lowdown, misleading, and simplistic. What else is new?

I implore readers to put all the nasty hype in the trash bin where it belongs. If in doubt of anything, including what I or the Vegan RD have to say, then delve into the actual study itself, see who funded it, etc. If you do, or have anything else to add, please provide your findings…or even your own sperm test results as a vegan male…by commenting below. It would be much appreciated.

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