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Why the fuck am I vegan? – The downside they don’t tell you about.

All of this lady’s posts are great (regardless of any “profanity”). There aren’t many articles, so it should be easy for anyone to read and learn from them all…

VeganSupernova

People don’t tell you about the downside. They talk about the incredible health benefits and the reduction of risk for heart disease and cancers. They talk about how it supports the planet because animal agriculture is the leading cause of deforestation, species extinction, habitat loss, ocean dead zones and greenhouse gas emissions. They tell you about how you’re no longer contributing to the horrific torture, mutilation and misery in the everyday lives of innocent animals and the horror they endure in the slaughterhouse.

Granted. There’s no denying that.

So then being vegan must be awesome… right?!

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Non-Vegan or Anti-Vegan, That is the Crux

To vegans:

People often accuse us of being nasty or judgmental towards non-vegans, turning them off from even attempting to be vegan in their not wanting to be associated with such hateful, vicious people. After all, if that’s how being vegan makes one feel, all angry and venomous, then they want nothing to do with it, would rather remain happy eating bacon and burgers with all the normal well-adjusted people. That’s how the story goes anyways. But it’s a crock load of nonsense, like all other anti-vegan brainwashing.

I treat non-vegans with respect and politeness, same as they treat me; but I treat anti-vegans with disdain or no regard at all because that’s what they deserve, at the very least.

A distinction that should be obvious

As with legal and illegal immigration, there is a huge difference between non-vegans and anti-vegans. Still, a more middle-ground non-vegan may have anti-vegan views developed by learning from media and elsewhere that vegans are to be despised and pitied for our “stupidity and lack of nutrition,” but those are the more neutral and reachable sorts of non-vegans, as they don’t have a vested interest in some sort of animal product industry, or they’re not overly emotionally charged with regard to what they like to eat. They are willing to listen to the other side of the story.

The anti-vegans, however, who actually deserve much worse than the worst vegans have to offer, are those venomously anti-vegan, obsessed individuals who often seem to make it their life’s mission to destroy veganism and for “humanity” to remain existing in slaughterhouse-based “civilizations.” They already know the vegan side of the story and they cannot tolerate it. These rabid anti-vegans want no vegans in the world, they often tell us to kill ourselves and other such hateful heckling; they’re basically just frothing with hatred for all things vegan. Those are the people many vegans are “bashing” or otherwise being “aggressively judgmental” about. The difference between non- and anti- is clear, although muddied up and obscured expertly by the usual suspects.

Cartoon by Zach Weinersmith 2008

That’s not to say some vegans aren’t annoyingly priggish and pushy at times, but they’ve got their reasons, are rightfully upset or angry. Consider how no one would accuse anti-pedophilia activists of being priggish and pushy, except for pedos, that is. If you’ve a problem with comparing animal slaughter to child molestation or other violent crimes, then you need to examine your real reasons for that reaction…get fully honest with yourself. Everyone knows that those ruthless/violent towards animals are 99% the ones who will treat people likewise as soon as the opportunity arises. Please realize what you are nurturing by embracing such speciesism.

How to deal?

So, when critics of vegans are tone-policing us to make us feel bad and wrong for speaking up, for treating decent people like shit and being counterproductive, destroying our cause, realize what’s going on there. It’s all lies based in more lies with a foundation of subhuman cruelty. Think of your own lives and how you treat family and others based in their respect for you and treatment of you; remember how you are not this self-righteous scourge whom everyone dreads running into for fear of your attacking their plates of food and screaming at them, etc.. Or if people do dread you, it’s about something else, not your non-use of animal products. But it’s often about their own guilt and shame which they, not you, have brought to light simply due to you’re statement, “I’m vegan.”

Case in point: I have a neighbor who I only mentioned to once that I’m vegan as a hint, because she’s been giving me holiday gifts with animal products which I’ve had to donate elsewhere, and I didn’t want that anymore. No, I didn’t tell her I’ve donated her gifts or in any way mention them…I’ve only thanked her for them in the past. So recently, when I ran into her carrying a plate of food from the barbecue area, she actually tried to hide it from me. I could only say a friendly hello and be perplexed and keep on walking. We’re both very mature women and this seems like such childish behavior. But that’s what happens to people when this particular “nerve” gets struck in them, just from the simplest mention of someone being vegan.

Now, to the tone-policing vegan basher out there, the above incident would be further proof of vegans being self-righteous pricks and “no wonder everyone hates us” and all that nonsense, all based in the strange ”I’m guilty and you’re bad for making me feel this” reaction of the triggered meat lover, based in my doing nothing at all inappropriate or in any way impolite. I simply didn’t want to get any more non-vegan gift items. By the way, last Christmas, her idea of vegan was still milk chocolate and other animal products. So there you go…I attributed it to her husband buying the gifts and not knowing any better. Off to the homeless center the unwanted items went. Sigh.

So, if you as a vegan have been letting yourself feel put down and guilty for simply existing and not being silent about your ethical concerns and your grief for the animals, try to not let that happen anymore. Try to make clear out there the difference between non- and anti-vegans and whenever necessary, don’t let the latter get away with the usual deceitful tactics. Realize what’s going on and that you’re not to blame. You’re not destroying any cause by fighting fire with fire (as in “ammo” not blazes) at times and you’re not responsible for people “eating a hamburger right now” (and a 2nd one for extra spite!) or any of the other nonsense people will pull out of their nether regions. A lot of it is gaslighting, which I wrote about in an earlier article.

In closing, simply don’t ever let yourself feel like a wrongdoer for grieving and fighting to end the torturous lives and ruthless killing of these helpless, highly sensitive beings:

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Outrageous Policy Violations by a Terrible Vegan!

Case in Point

[UPDATE below]

I recently had ALL of my comments deleted from an article as if they’re policy violations or spam, so I’m sharing the article here: https://authoritynutrition.com/vegan-diet-weight-loss/. Below are screen shots from my account page showing all of my removed comments. No need to slog through all that I wrote, but just to see that I wasn’t vulgar or overly angry or insulting or in any way in violation of policies…what I was in violation of was the nice little web of lies people like to live under regarding their cruel, bloody “food choices.”

I don’t often get so involved in comments, but this particular supposedly vegan-friendly article and the way people were commenting really got on my nerves, so I dived in and wallowed in there way longer than I wanted to, so please pardon the tedium, it’s really not necessary to read all my blithering.

In the article, scroll down for the Disqus comment section and you can probably see which people I was replying to, and how they deserve deletion if I do. I believe there was nothing out of line with anything I said, and this shows the sheer cowardice of the anti-vegan mindset and the blatantly unfair behavior they engage in to protect themselves from inconvenient truths. My first comment starts at bottom, latest reply is on top.

UPDATE: I just now (4/23 11:00 a.m.) made another comment on the subject article and it is awaiting approval, which I doubt will happen, so here it is. Further update: Yes, it was marked as spam:

Another problem in this article is that you say, “Up to 45% of people are unable to convert the beta-carotene found in carrots and other orange-colored vegetables to retinol, the active form of vitamin A.” But that’s not quite the case; worst case scenario is that a certain type of people have their ability to convert reduced by 69%. But it’s still easy to get enough vitamin A from carrots and such because you’re getting hundreds of times more A from beta-carotene than you need from certain plant foods. And too much “real” vitamin A from high-retinol foods (animal products) increases fracture risk in women, so it’s actually better to get A from vegetable sources, for everyone. All of that can be read here, from human studies: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2854912/