Non-Vegan or Anti-Vegan, That is the Crux

To vegans:

People often accuse us of being nasty or judgmental towards non-vegans, turning them off from even attempting to be vegan in their not wanting to be associated with such hateful, vicious people. After all, if that’s how being vegan makes one feel, all angry and venomous, then they want nothing to do with it, would rather remain happy eating bacon and burgers with all the normal well-adjusted people. That’s how the story goes anyways. But it’s a crock load of nonsense, like all other anti-vegan brainwashing.

I treat non-vegans with respect and politeness, same as they treat me; but I treat anti-vegans with disdain or no regard at all because that’s what they deserve, at the very least.

A distinction that should be obvious

As with legal and illegal immigration, there is a huge difference between non-vegans and anti-vegans. Still, a more middle-ground non-vegan may have anti-vegan views developed by learning from media and elsewhere that vegans are to be despised and pitied for our “stupidity and lack of nutrition,” but those are the more neutral and reachable sorts of non-vegans, as they don’t have a vested interest in some sort of animal product industry, or they’re not overly emotionally charged with regard to what they like to eat. They are willing to listen to the other side of the story.

The anti-vegans, however, who actually deserve much worse than the worst vegans have to offer, are those venomously anti-vegan, obsessed individuals who often seem to make it their life’s mission to destroy veganism and for “humanity” to remain existing in slaughterhouse-based “civilizations.” They already know the vegan side of the story and they cannot tolerate it. These rabid anti-vegans want no vegans in the world, they often tell us to kill ourselves and other such hateful heckling; they’re basically just frothing with hatred for all things vegan. Those are the people many vegans are “bashing” or otherwise being “aggressively judgmental” about. The difference between non- and anti- is clear, although muddied up and obscured expertly by the usual suspects.

Cartoon by Zach Weinersmith 2008

That’s not to say some vegans aren’t annoyingly priggish and pushy at times, but they’ve got their reasons, are rightfully upset or angry. Consider how no one would accuse anti-pedophilia activists of being priggish and pushy, except for pedos, that is. If you’ve a problem with comparing animal slaughter to child molestation or other violent crimes, then you need to examine your real reasons for that reaction…get fully honest with yourself. Everyone knows that those ruthless/violent towards animals are 99% the ones who will treat people likewise as soon as the opportunity arises. Please realize what you are nurturing by embracing such speciesism.

How to deal?

So, when critics of vegans are tone-policing us to make us feel bad and wrong for speaking up, for treating decent people like shit and being counterproductive, destroying our cause, realize what’s going on there. It’s all lies based in more lies with a foundation of subhuman cruelty. Think of your own lives and how you treat family and others based in their respect for you and treatment of you; remember how you are not this self-righteous scourge whom everyone dreads running into for fear of your attacking their plates of food and screaming at them, etc.. Or if people do dread you, it’s about something else, not your non-use of animal products. But it’s often about their own guilt and shame which they, not you, have brought to light simply due to you’re statement, “I’m vegan.”

Case in point: I have a neighbor who I only mentioned to once that I’m vegan as a hint, because she’s been giving me holiday gifts with animal products which I’ve had to donate elsewhere, and I didn’t want that anymore. No, I didn’t tell her I’ve donated her gifts or in any way mention them…I’ve only thanked her for them in the past. So recently, when I ran into her carrying a plate of food from the barbecue area, she actually tried to hide it from me. I could only say a friendly hello and be perplexed and keep on walking. We’re both very mature women and this seems like such childish behavior. But that’s what happens to people when this particular “nerve” gets struck in them, just from the simplest mention of someone being vegan.

Now, to the tone-policing vegan basher out there, the above incident would be further proof of vegans being self-righteous pricks and “no wonder everyone hates us” and all that nonsense, all based in the strange ”I’m guilty and you’re bad for making me feel this” reaction of the triggered meat lover, based in my doing nothing at all inappropriate or in any way impolite. I simply didn’t want to get any more non-vegan gift items. By the way, last Christmas, her idea of vegan was still milk chocolate and other animal products. So there you go…I attributed it to her husband buying the gifts and not knowing any better. Off to the homeless center the unwanted items went. Sigh.

So, if you as a vegan have been letting yourself feel put down and guilty for simply existing and not being silent about your ethical concerns and your grief for the animals, try to not let that happen anymore. Try to make clear out there the difference between non- and anti-vegans and whenever necessary, don’t let the latter get away with the usual deceitful tactics. Realize what’s going on and that you’re not to blame. You’re not destroying any cause by fighting fire with fire (as in “ammo” not blazes) at times and you’re not responsible for people “eating a hamburger right now” (and a 2nd one for extra spite!) or any of the other nonsense people will pull out of their nether regions. A lot of it is gaslighting, which I wrote about in an earlier article.

In closing, simply don’t ever let yourself feel like a wrongdoer for grieving and fighting to end the torturous lives and ruthless killing of these helpless, highly sensitive beings:

Outrageous Policy Violations by a Terrible Vegan!

Case in Point

[UPDATE below]

I recently had ALL of my comments deleted from an article as if they’re policy violations or spam, so I’m sharing the article here: https://authoritynutrition.com/vegan-diet-weight-loss/. Below are screen shots from my account page showing all of my removed comments. No need to slog through all that I wrote, but just to see that I wasn’t vulgar or overly angry or insulting or in any way in violation of policies…what I was in violation of was the nice little web of lies people like to live under regarding their cruel, bloody “food choices.”

I don’t often get so involved in comments, but this particular supposedly vegan-friendly article and the way people were commenting really got on my nerves, so I dived in and wallowed in there way longer than I wanted to, so please pardon the tedium, it’s really not necessary to read all my blithering.

In the article, scroll down for the Disqus comment section and you can probably see which people I was replying to, and how they deserve deletion if I do. I believe there was nothing out of line with anything I said, and this shows the sheer cowardice of the anti-vegan mindset and the blatantly unfair behavior they engage in to protect themselves from inconvenient truths. My first comment starts at bottom, latest reply is on top.

UPDATE: I just now (4/23 11:00 a.m.) made another comment on the subject article and it is awaiting approval, which I doubt will happen, so here it is. Further update: Yes, it was marked as spam:

Another problem in this article is that you say, “Up to 45% of people are unable to convert the beta-carotene found in carrots and other orange-colored vegetables to retinol, the active form of vitamin A.” But that’s not quite the case; worst case scenario is that a certain type of people have their ability to convert reduced by 69%. But it’s still easy to get enough vitamin A from carrots and such because you’re getting hundreds of times more A from beta-carotene than you need from certain plant foods. And too much “real” vitamin A from high-retinol foods (animal products) increases fracture risk in women, so it’s actually better to get A from vegetable sources, for everyone. All of that can be read here, from human studies: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2854912/


Judgmental Anti-Judgmentalism in the Plant-Based Cult

People's popular notion of vegans

People’s popular notion of vegans

A prolific cult has attached itself to veganism like a giant sucking leech, condemning ethical veganism and promoting an anorexic/orthorexic, fanatically low-fat diet based on starch, or entirely fruit, raw, whatever. The word “fat” is spit out with utter contempt, so to be a member of this cult you need to get proficient at that, their main identifier.

In this highly tolerant cult, liberal politics are openly preached as if “no conservatives need apply.” Virtuous, extreme thinness and wide thigh gaps abound, exercise mania rules the day, bubbliness beams from gaunt little faces, toothpick arms flail, and aggressive normalcy oozes from loudly babbling mouths. They sometimes live in fancy big houses and brag about how admirable and wonderfully normal their lives, their selves and their perfect families are.

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People partying on a boat by MarkScottAustinTX Flickr (representing party people, not vegans)

Naked Gardening Day

Naked Gardening Day (by PinstripedFanny)

They pity or make fun of anyone lacking their advantages. They especially pity-hate the “overweight” and assume that those people consume shameful quantities of vegetable & animal fats, otherwise they would not be fatties. Yet, being judgmental is a huge taboo in this jet-setter community…so by “judgmental” they mean judging anything differently than they do.

I often see them gossiping, gleefully condemning even slightly chubby people, political opposites and animal-advocate vegans as scourges and destructive morons. That, they claim, is their being appealing and welcoming to not-yet-vegans. Along with, of course, their embracing of meat eating and such as just another life choice, nothing morally wrong with it…nothing at all! (Except that it’s “fattening.”)

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Humane slaughter on the small family farm

If you’re fawning and apologetic enough to the wiry plant-based for your slovenly, less than reedy self, and properly admiring, you too can join their big happy club. Because vegan no longer has a definition, you see, it’s a big, happy, selectively indefinable group of slim party people who only reject fatties, those obsessed with animal suffering, and the politically incorrect (ew, outcasts!). For other than those undesirable groups, vegan now means a carelessly shrugged, “whatever.” 😃

ironyThat pragmatism brings SUCCESS! to these self-proclaimed effective vegans…they get the numbers that way, they say, while preachy, bad vegans FAIL by scaring folks away by insisting that vegan means, well, vegan, as in radical, as in no animal foods, products, etc. …nothing that supports animal use/abuse/killing, to the best of our abilities in the world as it is. But we’re wrong, you see, vegan is strictly a diet, mainly a weight loss diet, and when you’re done losing weight, or whatever, you can go back to animal products if they call out to you…and still be vegan if you wanna be! You don’t have to be  honest and true like them…

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Indian actors & ethical vegans, Vidyut Jammwal & Adah Sharma

Photo source: http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/parties-and-events/vidyut-jammwal-adah-sharma-promote-commando-2-facebooks-office/

I speak as a former lapsed vegan who wanted to continue calling myself vegan when I wasn’t, but would say “mostly vegan” if asked. I was sporadically over the years eating dairy, eggs and occasional fish just because it was “easier” and I was isolated away from other vegans, more able to fool myself into believing the cage-free or humane myths. I was also frightened by clever “vegan health disaster” stories put out by meat industry shills. Realizing that honesty and true definitions really matter (and the animals even more so)…thanks to “preachy” online vegans no less…are what brought me back to stay in early 2009. This is precisely the problem “pragmatic vegans” have with ethical vegans, why they hate us so much. They don’t want vegans to stay with it. They evidently have another agenda?

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Happy village slaughter, no big corporate demons here.

We animal-advocates have non-vegan loved ones and love them no less, but would love them even more than ever if they got with us. We’re basically decent people, not these venomous monsters we’re depicted as (by actual venomous people). We don’t go around tying people to railroad tracks or whatever “vegan villains” do. We understand “almost vegan” and such; we appreciate when people are trying and transitioning, and less animal consumption is always better. Still, we do want everyone to be with us…but as vegans for the animals, not KFCegans or unconcerned plant-based dieters. (I have a lot of gall assuming that I speak for other vegans, but it’s just going by my experiences.)

Early Jim Jones, famous suicide cult leader, selling pet monkeye

Early Jim Jones, famous suicide cult leader, selling pet monkeys

Now with this pragmatic anti-vegan vegan cult, being vegan “to the best of our abilities” has been contorted to mean that if eating big macs on occasion is the best you can do, then you’re still vegan if you only eat big macs a couple of times a month, or whatever, that’s just a random example. Now, that sounds like a meat industry agenda to me.

See, to be a proper, effective vegan activist you need to preach about dangers and pitfalls of “giving up a whole, vital category of food!” and how most people cannot do this safely, so they need to be forgiven when they go back to cheeseburgers and bacon & eggs (the real goal). Ideally, grass fed, free range, humanely killed! But ideals aren’t fun all the time, so off to Bill’s Burger Barn you go…you gotta live after all, shucks. Now, this is how you grow veganism!

egg-headWell, that is of course how you water down veganism, attempt to make it meaningless, frightening, cultish, bizarre, dangerous, and full of loopholes, where animal farming & slaughter suddenly are under its welcoming umbrella. That’s in fact how you fight against veganism from within. Like a disease. Then we have their favorite Pied Piper, Temple Grandin, at the helm with all that “humane” slaughter gushiness people so love to get behind. It’s a hell of a lot of cleverness…I’ll give it that.

But wait, there’s a “vaccine” against the disease, this “too hip & healthy to dwell on animal abuse” and/or this “effective pragmatic” plant-based dieting: Love for innocent Wind People Watch Tough Face Outdoor Woman Modellife, self-respect, moral/ethical strength, honesty, and a highly developed deception filter. And there are no debilitating side effects with this self-immunization. To top it all off, it’s free! Rewarding even.

NOTES: 1) Images are public domain royalty-free or credited where required. 2) I mistakenly posted a pic of flighty EX-vegan John Quinlan (he looked silly anyways lol), so replaced it with legitimate, ethical vegans, Vidyut & Adah.